tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2937650450404341978.comments2013-11-03T13:14:56.440-07:00April Baker ... The Sister MissionaryAprilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12673426434819853796noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2937650450404341978.post-25731937201724713972013-11-03T13:14:56.440-07:002013-11-03T13:14:56.440-07:00Is the church so controlling that it is a cult? I...Is the church so controlling that it is a cult? It is clear that before the federal government had a judiciary inside Utah that functioned, the church exercised complete control over the lives of members. <br /><br />Today it still controls the lives of its employees, missionaries and students to such an extent that it would meet the definition of cult control. For members, it depends how strictly the parents adhere to the church's counsel on raising the kids.<br /><br />http://www.rationalrevelation.com/library/cultdefinition.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2937650450404341978.post-67394153573899954812013-10-20T18:09:59.558-06:002013-10-20T18:09:59.558-06:00IT'S AN AWESOME MOVIE EVERYONE DONT LISTEN TO ...IT'S AN AWESOME MOVIE EVERYONE DONT LISTEN TO HERTylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06628373741085271452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2937650450404341978.post-86713717491311393072013-10-19T17:12:07.372-06:002013-10-19T17:12:07.372-06:00This whole post is spot on.I felt the same during ...This whole post is spot on.I felt the same during my time at BYU. I love the atmosphere and the school; I hate these kinds of hypocrisy. Slowly they'll see logic and reason... or not. Their job is definitely to NOT make it easy to leave, which I can't blame them for, but I can agree that it IS hypocrisy plain and simple.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2937650450404341978.post-45503146180933361032013-09-26T09:22:33.524-06:002013-09-26T09:22:33.524-06:00
Great article, and good job pointing out the hyp...<br /><br />Great article, and good job pointing out the hypocrisy of the code versus what the BOM and LDS leaders have said. I am in constant awe of how many disaffected LDS students there are at BYU who are just trying to finish their degree before moving on. Burkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18137830836186267653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2937650450404341978.post-84056315981287566882013-09-26T05:54:55.005-06:002013-09-26T05:54:55.005-06:00I agree this is a great post. You have a good poin...I agree this is a great post. You have a good point that not a lot of members see because they don't want to face the facts that sometimes the church CAN be hypocritical. It has happened in the past many times but these members will always find a way to make it sound like the church "never" did such a thing. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2937650450404341978.post-22841622971016321742013-09-25T22:17:41.071-06:002013-09-25T22:17:41.071-06:00Stephanie, I'm afraid your reasoning is flawed...Stephanie, I'm afraid your reasoning is flawed. You said that the first two reasons someone would leave the LDS church is due to sin, and the third is from the church distancing itself because of publicly fighting against the church. You are completely overlooking voluntary resignation, which, more often than not, comes from a disagreement of current church policies (which students of other faiths may as well) or a distrust of the divine authority of the LDS faith (which belief those without a religion would share).<br /><br />The group of people who find themselves in this category (which is large) have done nothing worthy of church discipline, aren't speaking publicly against the church (they're providing their education for heaven's sake), nor have they done anything which could be considered unseemly by any PR department in the world, including the church's. The only "sin" these people have committed is the sin of free-thought, of rejecting dogmatic divine authority, and wishing to follow the dictates of their own consciences. The BYU Honor Code, as it currently stands, is a slap in the face of these people, a final jab in an already difficult and heart-wrenching journey.<br /><br />While I understand your point of view, I think you, as well as BYU and the LDS church as a whole, need to understand the real reasons why someone would choose to believe differently, and not jump to the tired old conclusions of "they left because they sinned" or "they wanted to sin" or "they wanted the easy way out".Trent Oswaldhttp://therebelrobot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2937650450404341978.post-48501170387577476562013-09-25T22:08:18.682-06:002013-09-25T22:08:18.682-06:00Great post. The BYU honor code is a nightmare. You...Great post. The BYU honor code is a nightmare. You wouldn't believe how many students are breaking it on a daily basis. All it does now is teach students to become better liars. Students should want to follow the principles of Christ, but they shouldn't be forced to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2937650450404341978.post-14770387299855391052013-09-25T22:07:58.527-06:002013-09-25T22:07:58.527-06:00Great post. The BYU honor code is a nightmare. You...Great post. The BYU honor code is a nightmare. You wouldn't believe how many students are breaking it on a daily basis. All it does now is teach students to become better liars. Students should want to follow the principles of Christ, but they shouldn't be forced to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2937650450404341978.post-46563907858678576922013-09-25T16:33:08.356-06:002013-09-25T16:33:08.356-06:00I think you are looking at this from a student per...I think you are looking at this from a student perspective vs a church prospective. I can see your point but would like to offer it from the other view. Excommunication, disfellowshipt and disaffiliation can and usually come from the Church/ Bishops Council/ Stake Council etc, determining that these actions need to be taken. For example, the first two can come from actions/sins committed but warrant them to happen. Disaffiliation can come from the church deciding that this persons actions, vitriol, etc are showing the church in such a poor light ( for lack of a better phrase) - those that actively fight against the church (or the actions are in no way representative of the Church and are harmful) that the Church formally distances themselves from that person. Typically I would think on of the first two actions would have taken place in conjunction with the last. I get your argument, I just think that there is another side to it. I would think that a Bishop who is interviewing someone for an Ecclesiastical Endorsement has the wisdom and the Spirit to discern those that are struggling with their standing in the church, but are an otherwise good person that merits an education from BYU. I just think you are taking it from an all or nothing standpoint. BTW April you are awesome! Miss seeing you up here! Stephaniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139055452010185418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2937650450404341978.post-34364919651841721632013-04-30T11:59:22.766-06:002013-04-30T11:59:22.766-06:00Hi. It's not at all a funny thing to worry abo...Hi. It's not at all a funny thing to worry about this! I feel just like this all the time. Whatever I do, However hard I tried, I always seem to mess up. So I trie and i trie harder. But it's never quite good enough. And I'm afraid it will never be good enough and that I will always be a disappointment to others but also to myself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2937650450404341978.post-25638933581244647282012-11-09T08:16:37.775-07:002012-11-09T08:16:37.775-07:00Ha ha! Great story April! Also.. I'm curious a...Ha ha! Great story April! Also.. I'm curious about who's who in the picture above! Please explain it to me at home! :)Kellihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15400271173742878070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2937650450404341978.post-37143230355543907282012-11-03T23:45:58.503-06:002012-11-03T23:45:58.503-06:00Ah, they did?!? Well it's a good thing then th...Ah, they did?!? Well it's a good thing then that we didn't go back over. Aprilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12673426434819853796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2937650450404341978.post-71356508873238181922012-11-03T20:50:48.821-06:002012-11-03T20:50:48.821-06:00I did tell you that Josh later told me that his re...I did tell you that Josh later told me that his relations spotted us?Hillarynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2937650450404341978.post-59219039753582499602012-11-03T19:00:14.765-06:002012-11-03T19:00:14.765-06:00Okay. I love the lobster story. You're so funn...Okay. I love the lobster story. You're so funny. And I'm with you on Wall-E. Weird movie!Kellihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15400271173742878070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2937650450404341978.post-1456934005820509452012-11-01T12:39:14.661-06:002012-11-01T12:39:14.661-06:00Thanks for the Karaoke Recon. I just want to poin...Thanks for the Karaoke Recon. I just want to point out that there is no way I'm cooler than you (even if I do have two year on you). Also.. I'm super excited for your new BAKING skills.. February can't come soon enough! :)Kellihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15400271173742878070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2937650450404341978.post-8704809279691546542012-05-14T21:13:23.398-06:002012-05-14T21:13:23.398-06:00It's SO awesome that your blogging! Congrats o...It's SO awesome that your blogging! Congrats on getting a job :) I know how difficult the job search can be, so that is super exciting :) Thanks for your awesome posts! It's crazy to think that we're old enough to see so many people we know leaving on missions. And, in 2 years, would be old enough to go for ourselves :D Keep posting b/c I'll keep reading! oh, and I'm running too :) (although I don't think I've run quite that far) Have a great week :)Kaylyn Bethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15563149541697049696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2937650450404341978.post-4011038551976565342012-01-14T19:53:58.908-07:002012-01-14T19:53:58.908-07:00I'm so sorry about your roommates! That's ...I'm so sorry about your roommates! That's terrible. I had terrible roommates my freshman year, so I can kind of relate. But I can't believe they asked you to move out!<br /><br />If you ever need to get away, you're welcome to hang out at our place for a few hours.<br /><br />Also, hopefully you don't think it's totally weird that I read your blog.Erin Despainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12920145050983784785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2937650450404341978.post-63003615784440607052011-10-29T17:48:57.329-06:002011-10-29T17:48:57.329-06:00No, because these are real people who are saying t...No, because these are real people who are saying this. Real people! Who think that they know what they're talking about. Not silly cartoon people who know nothing about space.Aprilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12673426434819853796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2937650450404341978.post-17315488738877023042011-10-29T16:11:12.881-06:002011-10-29T16:11:12.881-06:00The osmosis thing: Not at all like my prejudice ag...The osmosis thing: Not at all like my prejudice against the super nova in Treasure Planet.Hillarynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2937650450404341978.post-74376237423282020462011-10-21T11:00:39.403-06:002011-10-21T11:00:39.403-06:00right behind the pumpkin it says love too.right behind the pumpkin it says love too.Aprilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12673426434819853796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2937650450404341978.post-5511387365240962632011-10-21T09:29:51.492-06:002011-10-21T09:29:51.492-06:00That's true. You do know the rules, so when yo...That's true. You do know the rules, so when you break them, it must be for artistic purposes! And yeah, that does look cool. <br /><br />I also like the "Live, Laugh" thing right behind the pumpkin with a knife embedded in it's skull.Hillarynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2937650450404341978.post-15333957390894985262011-10-20T17:39:28.579-06:002011-10-20T17:39:28.579-06:00yeah, but now that I know the rules, I can break t...yeah, but now that I know the rules, I can break them or whatever right? I kind of liked how the overexposure washed out the background and made the Orange in the photo more dominate.Aprilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12673426434819853796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2937650450404341978.post-58364145601011656492011-10-20T15:36:09.995-06:002011-10-20T15:36:09.995-06:00I can only hope that you were trying to be spooky ...I can only hope that you were trying to be spooky or something with the lighting, because otherwise that picture is horrible over exposed and you should know better.<br /><br />...<br /><br />Hah, I love that photography class, it makes me feel fancy and knowledgeable.Hillarynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2937650450404341978.post-26908163515438648592011-10-07T09:29:24.969-06:002011-10-07T09:29:24.969-06:00Oh, wait, that's all of 2011.....Never mind!!Oh, wait, that's all of 2011.....Never mind!!Hillarynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2937650450404341978.post-81721353018328239992011-10-07T09:28:22.913-06:002011-10-07T09:28:22.913-06:00Do you realize that you also went from 0 inches of...Do you realize that you also went from 0 inches of precipitation to 17??Hillarynoreply@blogger.com